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a deadly explosion in a fireworks market in mexico. we feel the full power of the blast. this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. isis claiming it inspired the terrorist attack on the christmas market in berlin. a manhunt is underway for whoever is behind the assault. one man initially detained, release for lack of evidence. german investigators lost valuable time in tracking down the killer or killers. we will get to that shortly, but i want to begin with a deadly fireworks explosion in mexico. ed lavin dara is live with the latest. what can you tell us about the deadly fireworks explosion, ed? >> hi, don. at least 29 people have been
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killed, more than 70 injured. we were told by the governor of the state where this happened in mexico, which is in the town north of mexico city that three young children will be transferred to a hospital in galveston, texas, for treatment of extreme burns. you get the sense of the intensity of the blasts and the video images ush you are watching you can hear the flashing of fire endlessly going off as a massive cloud of smoke also engulfed the fireworks stand area. this is an open-air market in a city that is known for its pyrotechnic culture. it is basically the fireworks capital of mexico. every year there's a huge festival where tens of thousands of people gather to watch the fireworks, elaborate fireworks display sold in these open-air markets. obviously very pop lar this time of the year, as well, as we head in to the christmas season and new years festivities. these fireworks stands are a
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popular destination, as well. we can see in the video that has emerged in the -- in the explosion ceased, the charred wreckage of the fireworks stand, people racing, red cross crews trying to help as many as they can. right now investigators are trying to figure out why all of this happened. it is not clear what caused the explosion. the governor of the state of mm nm says they are looking to see whether or not these explosions were deliberately set or if it was just an accident that got completely out of hand. those are some of the things that investigators will begin to look at once they have finished the recovery of bodies and helping victims at the scene. don? >> ed lavandera on the breaking news out of mexico. now the troor attack in berlin, isis claiming it inspired the ed deadly assault. max foster is at the scene. hello. the killer is still on the
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loose. what's the latest on the manhunt and the investigation? >> we know nothing about this manhunt really because what happened is they had the wrong man for nearly a day and they lost valuable time in finding the right man. all we know from isis that news agency says one of their soldiers carried out the attack. they have no evidence, given no context or information about the soldier. also there was a soldier directed by isis or a sympathizer inspired by isis? we know so little and the security services is absolutely locked down now on any information coming out. obviously because it is a live investigation and they probably feel they gave up too much information about the suspect they did have in custody who was pakistani asylum seeker and after a few hours of questioning turned out not to be the culprit in this case. they had to release him without charging him. >> max, what are people feeling
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in berlin right now? up until yesterday, germany hasn't seen the same sort of attacks as france and belgium. i'm sure they are concerned about the possibility of more attacks. >> ther. this was an attack on a christmas market which is a cultural phenomenon here. everyone would come to this particularly famous one in berlin to do christmas shopping. people are horribly unsettled by it and of course isis wants to urn settle people. that's the idea of terror. they want people to stop coming to events like this. as soon as it opens up, i think you will have people coming down here but not in the same sorts of numbers. what this does do is play very much in to a political debate here, based on fear. the emergence of the far right in this country, merkel with spear headed the idea of allowing refugees in to the european union, in to germany in particular and offering them
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protection. the far right capitalized on that saying it is exposing germans to danger and this absolutely played in to that. they are calling these people's merkels' deaths and say she is importing terror. that sort of debate is unsettling people here. particularly when we look at the presidential election next year. which way should they go? how should they act in public? what sort of politics and europe do they believe in? >> thank you very much for that. i want to bring in a former fbi agent ex pert on terrorism. cnn national security analyst the author of security mom. hello to all of you. isis is calling the attacker a soldier of the islamic state. they say they inspired this attack. does that mean there was likely no actual conversation with this attacker? >> that's very possible. isis has been saying for a long
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time that when it -- when someone wants to attack in its name the person should just go ahead and attack. there should be no necessary communication between isis and the attacker because they don't want to be found out. they don't want to have the connections exposed and they want to use whatever is out there at their disposal. >> we don't know who the attacker is yet. but when i sis says it inspired the attack, how does that impact the investigation? >> then you start to look at other people in the community that you may feel like they have relations with isis or isis followers and may expand it to other investigations you have pending that involve isis. >> them saying they inspired it as a former fbi agent, do you believe it is more than likely inspired by isis? >> i do. the reason for that, don, isis puts out a lot of propaganda and video of how they want people to attack, stay in place, attack
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where you can. even if you kill one that's enough. it sounds like a lot of these attacks are isis inspired. >> graeme you were telling me you think the same thing? >> there is a danger for them. if it turns out it was not done by someone in the name of isis and isis claimed it they have taken credibility. they have been careful to claim things that someone at least in the course of the attack or right before it the person has said i'm doing this in the name of isis. i think that is what we l find out happened. >> let's talk about the investigation and what max reported moments ago. police had someone in custody quickly but released him saying he wasn't the driver. how hard is it to catch the real killer as the minutes and hours tick by. they have lost some time here. >> they lost a significant amount of time. they may have been advancing on
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part of the investigation if they thought they had the guy. all of their focus on who he was and whether he had colleagues or others that may do the same thing and they don't have a lot of evidence. i have been in these situations enough to know a lot going on that we don't know. we know there might be pictures they are willing to release later on, or they may know who the person is. as i said earlier, there was another theory that people here in the united states and law enforcement and in these investigations valentine told me which is because the truck stopped an no one knows why it stopped and because there's no one, nor pictures of someone getting out of the truck, the question is whether the car was -- someone was actually driving it at the moment it went through the crowd. that has to be a theory that someone let it go forward on its own with a rock or something and got out. it would make it harder because you wouldn't have anyone looking at the truck at the moment.
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this is not good news for germany rite now, least what we know publicly. >> i wanted to ask you about this and didn't get a chance to. in many big cities in the u.s., surveillance camera are all over the place. in germany there are privacy concerns and may pose a problem for the investigation, may be why there's no picture. >> there maybe iphone pictures. every country has a standard based on their history. we have one, germany has one based on their history of hitler and before that. they are more pro privacy than we are and most of europe is. they don't have surveillance cameras like we do. we are used to it. and surprised when there is not a picture. i would anticipate there is pub lib surveillance pictures. based on the history of germany, countries are different in this regard and germany may change but come from a level of privacy in the public space that we have
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to be honest gave up a long time ago. >> how do they piece together investigators whether the person was working alone, had help, maybe someone helped them escape. >> obviously you have to identify who it is. once they have that, i mean a lot of information will come from, you know, come forward. that is neighbors, families, his travel history, cell phone records, computers. all of that investigation will come together and then be able to figure out who knew, how many were involved and when did he start to plan manage like this. >> how are people here, law enforcement, national security, how are they dealing with what they are seeing after the attack in berlin? >> i think the thing people have to be cognizant of an concerned with is the fact they are using weapons of a guerrilla nature. the weapons are like knives,
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stones. these are things you can not control. when we consider how isis will attack in the future, we have to to realize it is not necessarily through large bombs, through types of difficult to concoct weapons that we may have seen in previous eras. it will be more difficult to guard against result. >> does that speak to the state of isis how they are evolving. >> it does and it speaks to their strategy. they want to have the sense among their enemies it could be an attack at anytime. they want a sense of insecurity to be ubiquitous, universal among every one at all times. >> i want to talk about the russian ambassador assassinated yesterday. you look at the killer and say that he is yell iing don't forg about aleppo. what does that mean to you. >> it suggests he was more
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concerned about an area where isis hasn't been nearly as active as other jihadist organizations in syria. >> it is interesting. this is moments before he was assassinat assassinated. the person who did it is standing behind him, like he is guarding, it is highlighted there and all of a sudden he shoots him. >> a deeply unsettling image and it's the sense of insecurity that they are trying to project around the world. the idea that people look like they are there to protect you are in fact the ones that might be there to kill you. it's the kind of thing that makes everyone forced to be on edge at all times and to beef up security, even in times like an art gallery opening or a festive moment like christmas festival. >>. >> he was a young officer so they probably have a good background investigation but somewhere along the line the officer got in to that position. until he end he was acting like
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political opponents of merkel quick to claim it merkel's dead. >> they have called it an unprecedented refugee crisis. 65 million people pushed out of their homes worldwide by wars or
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natural disasters. some find ways to stay in their regions, but in 2015, more than 1 million made their way to europe and hundreds of thousands more followed this year. we don't even have a total counted yet. where are they coming from? places like kosovo with big economic problems, afghanistan, iraq, continuing conflicts are producing plenty of refugees, but by far, the single biggest source has been syria. last year alone, more than 350,000 syrian refugees sought asylum in europe, hoping to escape the brutal civil war raging in their homeland. where are these refugees going? hungary has taken in a good many, sweden, france, austria, all of these nations have taken in thousands but germany welcomed more than any nation by far, a half million last year or roughly equal to the population of sacramento, california.
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it is producing enormous pressure on those public officials who favor a continued open-door policy such as german chancellor angela merkel. chef argued that the crisis is something europe must help with in a big way for practical and moral reasons and with each terrorist incident we ask if the vetting of the immigrants is adequate. if there is a way to know where their sympathies lie and if there is an end in sight for the tide of regees. even as thousands of refugees flee brutal conditions in syria, the west is considering sealing its border against the influx. as we learn about the details of who's responsible for this. what impact do you think it will have on the refugee crisis in germany and around the world? >> a lot of countries will be hesitant to take in immigrants. they are concerned whether the
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immigrant and refugees will assimilate to their country and whether or not they will be alienated. i think this is -- a lot of different political parties fight over this issue, but people will have increased fear of incoming immigrants. >> reporter: let's talk about the politics of this, julia. the man who led the brexit movement tweeted this, terrible news from berlin but no surprise, events like this will be the merkel legacy. he is placing some blame on german chancellor, a lot of blame on angela merkel's policy. what's your reaction to that? >> it is a horrible statement. blaming a policy. first of all, we don't even know the facts right now. we don't even know if this was a german national radicalized or someone from syria who came in to germany. we don't know anything. but it obviously does what a right wing politician wants it to do, makes us look in a different direction about the issue. we do it in the same in the
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united states and europe. in a lf these cases this isn't a refugee or immigrant problem but a domestic problem. in the united states you look at orlando, new york, new jersey, these aren't immigrant problems, these are problems and they are problems of self radicalization of american citizens, in europe we have the same problem. this refugee crisis is one in which we will have to deal with and ensure that people that come in to countries are properly vetted as we do in the united states. it is a useful distraction from the difficult issue which is the rise of isis that is happening on-line. >> graeme, you know a lot about this because of your book "the way of the strangers." you have interviewed supporters and sympathizers of isis. does an event like this inspire others to join isis? >> it does give people the impression the islamic state is not on its back foot.
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that it is in an offensive position and has power. so yes, when supporters see this at this time gives them sense in isis tank. >> over the months we have seen a lot of isis territory shrink. you said this is -- they are evolving an this is how they want people to think mentally. it's a mind game for them to do this. do you think it's a sign of their weakness or strength? >> it is a sign they have transformed. there was a period when isis was telling its supporters at all costs come to our territory, go to the utopia we are creating and contribute to it. now isis said to supporters, if you do that you are wasting your time. you would be better off where you are and attacking. it partially reflects the loss of territory isis has had in syria and iraq. it shows, instead, it wants to
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inspire supporters to show they are a global movement and can attack anywhere, including western europe and the united states. >> i want to follow up on what juliet said earlier in the self radicalization issue. people could be born or raised in the west and growing up, maybe not assimilatinassimilati feeling marginalized or alienated an they turn to something and the narrative of what these radical groups offer them is something they are looking to accept. this is an issue they will continue to have and other people will see these attacks, look at it as a success, and might look to do something similar themselves. >> i want you to listen to jon miller, nypd commissioner for counterterrorism and intelligence. he said this about precautions they took after other recent attacks in europe. listen. >> well, we have layered approach, and the idea is if you
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have enough concentric circles you should find prevention before it gets to the center. one thing we did after al-qaeda's first suggestion that people use trucks years ago was to develop a relationship with the truck rental and truck industry. one thing we did after the nice attack was to go back outside to 140 truck rental locations and say, here's some indicators of suspicious behavior, here's how to get us on our hotline. here's how to get me, the detective that has come to see you on my phone and raise awareness. >> local authorities really have to depend on their relationship with these kinds of companies, don't they? >> absolutely. john has it right. we shouldn't think of security as an off and on switch. you either have it or don't. it is about thb layered security. you have intelligence, law enforcement, barriers, working with the private industry, you have trucks gone missing.
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see something, say something. those work together, not to get the risk to zero, that's not going to happen. it is not the standard of public safety but to minimize the risk to the population. so as we enter this holiday season with so much going on, you have the general threat of the holiday season, the specific threat 0 of isis and what's been going on the last two months and of course this historic, you know, democratic transition, which is always a time that makes law enforcement nervous. that peaceful transition from one president to another, all of those will visit themselves in a much more pub lib pro file in the big cities. >> how do people protect themselves going forward, especially during this season? >> well, so i tell people, if you think that going out is going to be safe i have to disagree. there is a tremendous risk of that. you want to minimize the risk.
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part of that is be aware of your surroundings. communicate where you are and where you might be if something were to happen, especially if you go to a big event. take the necessary precaution. i know having been in a lot of these disasters, the one thing that motivates everyone if something were to occur is family unification. the only thing that drives parents, kifds, they want to get back together with their family. take a few minutes to map that out. but go out. if there are lessons of the last couple of weeks it is that there are heightened security and these events have to and should go on and everyone who likes those kinds of events, unlike me, i should go out. >> there are a lot of them this time of the year, especially in new york city, rockefeller center and on and on and on. and jon miller deputy commissioner on counterterrorism and intelligence will be here tomorrow and we will discuss
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this with him. coming up, transition officials refuse to say whether president elect was briefed on events in europe today. will he be ready for a crisis on islam?
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mult plt attacks leaving observers around the world wondering is president-elect trump ready for the challenges coming his way? here to discuss is cnn pentagon correspondent barr b correspondent barbara starr. >> his team won't say whether he is receiving daily intelligence briefings since the attacks but events are moving very quickly.
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the quick attention of the suspect in the berlin christmas market attack had all of the hallmarks of terrorism. soon after, donald trump issuing a statement claiming islamist terrorists saying they are regional and worldwide networks must be eradicated. trump reacting to the assassination of the russian ambassador to turkey and an attack on a mosque in switzerland tweeting "it's only getting worse. the civilize world must change thinking." >> mr. trump has made it clear he understands the threat that radical islamic terrorism poses to our nation and our friend and neighbors around the globe and we have to call it what it is and root it out. >> reporter: hot spots facing trump may only grow and there are questions if he is ready for it. trump spokesman said he's getting briefed by his "national security team," but will not say if he has agreed to start briefing from government intelligence officials. >> this is not the business
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world. you know, he is going to get that call at 3:00 in the morning with a crisis and he will have to act. he's the president of the united states. trump now getting a sense of what it means to deal with the taliban. on a disturbing new video, an american woman and her canadian husband held hostage by the group since 2012 appear with their children, begging both trump and president obama to free them. some say as threats grow, the president elect needs to consider turning down his rhetoric because terrorists can appear to win with little effort. >> the fact is there's nothing the united states can do to prevent one guy from getting in one truck once a year and trying to kill people. >> reporter: in another hot spot, china, has returned to the u.s. that drone it took out of the water several days ago. many analysts say china still is
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sending a message to donald trump that it will remain a player in the south china sea an international security affairs. don? >> barbara starr, thank you. donald trump campaigned on putting america first, but he'll take office facing a world in turmoil. we'll talk about that with my political experts next.
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trump takes office in 31 days. i want to bring in john phelps, talk radio host with kabc, out there in warm, sunny, southern california. >> enjoying every minute of it. >> sit there and look pretty. we are going to snub you. hilary rosen and the director of black outreach for president jovrch w. bush. thank you for joining us. hillary, you first, as we have been talking about president-elect trump is taking over the white house with a world in turmoil right now. this week alone has to be sobering for anyone. what do you think the biggest challenges will be facing him? >> well, you know, i think keeping control of his twitter finger seems to be the biggest challenge, although he seems to be the only one that doesn't see it as a problem right now. first of all, as a practical matter, we have one president at a time in this country. so reacting to events in germany
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may come to conclusions about the cause of a terrorist attack before the german government even says anything, while they are still looking for the suspect is reckless. i think that donald trump is, you know made a mistake in doing -- in jumping the gun that way. president obama showed more restraint. he called german chancellor, how can we help? what can we do? and gave them the leeway we would want in the united states if the same thing happened to us. >> here's the -- >> and then conflating between what happened in switzerland against muslim and what happened in germany against christians and not seeming to realize there was differences in those things. i just think we have a president elect who's jumping the gun with campaign rhetoric, instead of really being a thoughtful leader here. >> since you mentioned it, i'll put the statement up here. you moved ahead a little bit but
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that is okay. >> donald trump released a statement before the hard facts or motives were known and he said isis and other islamist terrorists continually slaughter christians in their communities and places of worship as part of their global jihad. these terrorists and their networks must be eradicated from the face of the earth, a mission we will carry out with all freedom-loving partners." . he linked the attack to islamist terrorists before german officials said who was responsible do you think he is getting ahead of intelligence? >> absolutely he is. this is dangerous because what he said is exactly what isis wants. they want to put forward a narrative that pits christianity against the muslim world, against islam. they have always wanted a holy religious war. donald trump is giving it to them. what he is doing i think is completely dangerous as he moves in to the white house. i think it betrays a complete
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misunderstanding of the kind of complicated and very nuanced situations at the global level that he's going to be inheriting. i think by not taking the intelligence briefing, that just underscores, again, his lack of interest in really wanting to be a thoughtful leader as we move in to one of the most complicated eras that we'rine seeing. >> he intelligence briefing he hasn't been taking it daily, what happened in germany and turkey yesterday, do you think he will take the briefings more often? >> i think back to maria's statement about who is calling and asking for a jihad or holy war. president-elect trump is not doing that and not asking for one. it is the islamic jihadists and islamic radicals that are calling for one, no the president. >> i didn't say he was calling for one but playing in to the
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rhetoric they are using. >> he's not. >> he is. >> he's not. back to your point, don, about the president's daily briefing. i know, for a fact the president elect is receiving briefings on a daily basis, sometimes twice a day. the presidential daily briefing is a specific dpomt, intelligence briefing prepared by the professionals at the white house and intelligence community. >> he said he wasn't taking them every day and he said he didn't have to sit down with them every day. >> i know for a fact the president elect is getting those multiple times a week. in addition to that his national security adviser is briefing him on a daily basis as it relates to the issues of the day and the contents of the presidential daily briefing. so he is being briefed. >> that might make it almost worse. >> what makes it worse? that he is being prepared? >> let's listen. >> well, i get it when i need
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it. >> first of all, these are very good people that are giving me the briefings. i say if something should change from this point, immediately call me. i'm available on one minute's notice. i don't have to be told -- i'm a smart person. i don't have to be told the same thing and the same words every single day for the next eight years. >> so, paris, i'm not picking on you, are we to believe the president himself or you because he's saying i'm not doing it every day because he doesn't feel the need to do it every day. >> don, you are picking on me, but i can take it. i'm a big guy. december 11th is when that was taken. and i'm telling you today the president elect is receiving daily briefings from his national security -- >> now he is taking them. >> that is news then because his campaign has not said, has not wanted to answer the question whether he is taking them on a daily basis because he probably
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isn't. >> he is getting his information from the national security adviser on a daily basis which includes information from the presidential daily briefing and multiple times a week he is receiving direct information on the daily briefing. the president elect will be prepared and is prepare pd. he has an excellent team around him. the presidency is about judgment and about who he puts around him to help advise him. he has an excellent set of people that will do that and he will be ready and he is ready to lead next month. >> i'm sorry, if he is getting these briefings it almost makes his behavior worse. it is saying he's learning what is actually happening and then he is ignoring it and going and jumping the gun any way. >> maybe he is -- you are not receiving the briefings. you don't know what he knows. >> that is ahead of the german chancellor, when you have a face-to-face domestic terrorist attack in germany is simply wrong. it is inappropriate. we'd not stand for the same thing to happen here. so the idea that president-elect
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trump doesn't see the importance of these diplomatic relationships is really troublesome to me. >> go ahead. >> it wasn't donald trump who got caught with egg on his face here. the bigger question is where did angela merkel get her intelligence briefing? because the germans were the ones that allowed it to slip through the cracks. this is part of the reason why president-elect trump was elected. this is part of the reason why brexit was voted in, part of the reason why like-minded people all over the globe are winning these elections. people have had enough of this. they want a change in course. what we are doing right now, the vetting process that we have, the counterterrorism procedures that we have in place right now, are not preventing attacks like these from happening and the people have had enough. >> it will be interesting what john says because especially what john is saying is the moment that trump takes office on january 21st, all of these attacks are going to stop. >> no, that's not what he is saying. >> our response to these attacks
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are going to change. that's what is going to change. >> that is so unrealistic and goes to my point about president-elect trump not become prepared to inherit a world that he will lead that is full of complications. >> what grounds do you have that he is not prepared? >> we have no clue how he will approach trying to destroy isis which is what he says he will do in a way that is different from president obama without going to full-on war with them and sending american troops in to harm's way. >> i've been very clear all week that i think that president-elect trump is entitled to reset diplomatic relationships around the world how he sees fit. he got elected. he's going to be president. he gets to make new policy if he wants to. i think the part that is frustrating and troublesome is he sort of shoots things out, just recklessly, instead of having a thoughtful communication with the american
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people. if he wants to weigh in now before he's president, than he needs to weigh in thoughtfully. or keep his mouth shut. he can't have it both ways. he can't drop little twitter bombs and expect people to take him seriously like he has a plan or thoughtful approach. otherwise he should stay quiet and let president obama be the president until january 20th and then take over with a different approach and a communication to the american people and the world. but this kind of sort of shooting from the hip is really unsettling, not just for americans but around the world. >> what's unclear at this point? we know this was an intentional act. we know isis said it is an early christmas gift to the west. what is left unsaid outside of an arrest? >> go ahead. i will let you answer it. >> what was unsettled when he spoke is they didn't have the killer. they didn't have a motive.
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they weren't sure. it is well before isis said anything. he's flying in the dark. does he make a good guess every now and then, sure. what is the story, ve even a bl man can pick out a squirrel -- he owes the people a better approach here. >> paris, i want to ask you this because i didn't want to get in the way of your conversation if something is different happening in the intelligence briefing than what the president elect has said, and you said there is, are you an authorized person to say that? has he changed his stance on taking these briefings. is that reportable. he and his campaign have not said that. >> are you making news? >> that's not what i said.
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i said the president elect is receiving his national security -- his national security adviser is briefing him every day. and part of those briefings are from the presidential daily briefing which he receives multiple times per week. that's exactly what i said. >> that does not give people who up until now have understood that president-elect trump is not ready to take on the commander in chief role that he is listening to his national security adviser who during the campaign tweeted and retweeted fake news. >> i have to take a break. paris, it sounds like you are saying the opposite of what the president said but we will discuss on the other side. we'll be right back. healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. the east and the west are mine. the north and the south are mine. all seems beautiful to me.
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so back now with my panel. john, to paris's point. donald trump is being briefed daily by pick for national security adviser, retired general. i think that's what paris means. receives the daily brief but he's known to have a particular world view with national security issues. should he get briefings unfiltered? >> he's going to figure out his own path, what works for him and what works in trump white house. he was clear what he thought
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about the issues in the campaign and american people voted for him. i don't understand why people coming down on trump after the incident happened. nothing to do with it. he's not president. this is angela merkel's issue and europe's and trump didn't screw it up. >> he's responding to it. that's why we're talking about it. >> responded correctly. it's intentional act and isis taken credit. >> it was guess. >> not like guessing winning lotto numbers. >> but this is what i think people -- more people that voted against trump are concerned about. that this is somebody who tweets first, and asks question -- or maybe doesn't ask. >> was he right or wrong? >> we still don't know john. >> when you walk into a world that is more complicated than just right and wrong, black and
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white, strong man versus weak man, and all about nuance and political relationships and he doesn't seem interested in understanding any of it, then that gives pause to many people who not just in this country but around the world are afraid of the kind of shoot from the hip, loose lipped leader he's going to be in the white house. >> there's a new sheriff in town, named donald j. trump. going to be effective president. all throughout the campaign strong on national security. poll after poll american people showed they trusted him as stronger leader on issues of terrorism. that was consistent throughout the campaign against secretary clinton, now seeing someone receiving nafgs you're not privy to, multiple times per day and week about the national
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security -- >> i don't think he's privy to it because not taking the briefings. >> you are not taking the briefings, don't know what you're talking about i'm not president-elect. >> sorry. >> there no expertise about -- >> one at a time. >> we're not president-elect and don't have opportunity to understand. to get that information unfiltered from the people that put the report together. he said himself he's not interested in doing this, he's a smart person and doesn't need to hear same thing over and over. betrays fundamental not just misunderstanding but lack of wanting to understand what is going on in the world he inherits. >> so sometime that president obama receives information from someone that's somehow a problem? >> no because president obama was somebody who actually
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digested the daily information briefings put together. >> you're saying he's not? >> that's exactly. >> these are assumptions you have no foundation. >> he said it himself. we just played the clip. >> president-elect is receiving information about national security. may be so but arguing something he didn't say. >> saying something the campaign refused to say. if you want to make news. >> i know it to be fact. >> then we'll take that but that's not my point. i'm making a different point. i don't care if he's getting briefings or not. >> you should care. >> make your point hilary. >> in 2008 went through a major financial crisis before president obama took office, george bush was the president. instead of going out and tweeting every day his opinions without explanation to the
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american people, undermining existing regime and other governments, he communicated with the existing administration and worked together to make sure america spoke with single voice. donald trump doesn't do that. >> see you back here tomorrow. ♪ ♪ how else do you think he gets around so fast? take the reins this holiday and get the mercedes-benz you've always wanted during the winter event. now lease the 2017 gle350 for $579 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer.
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